GM Blog: FAQ
Thanks to everyone who made it up to the Mount Snow Valley for Columbus Weekend. I have talked to several business owners who agree that it was a fantastic weekend and we are all very grateful for your business. In speaking to many of you, a lot of questions were raised about the new lift we are installing. I know that when one person asks a question there are usually others who share the same uncertainty. So this week I am creating a FAQ sheet to answer all of those pre-ski-season quandaries.

Q: What kind of lift are you building?
A: A Leitner/Poma high speed 6-pack bubble chair lift. The only one of its kind in the US! We named it the BLUEBIRD EXPRESS!
Q: Why a bubble chair? Why not a gondola?
A: We like the protection of a gondola but didn’t want the inconvenience of taking off your equipment for a 7 minute ride. So the bubble provides protection without the hassle.
Q: Are you going to finish the project in time for the ski season?
A: Yes!
Q: Which brings us to the next question. When is opening day?
A: It all depends on Mother Nature but we are shooting to be ready around Nov 19.
Q: Did Tropical Storm Irene set you back.
A: Yes, for over 2 wks after the storm we could not get a concrete truck, crane or helicopter to the resort. The flood also submerged out Snow Lake pump house. But work is back on track and we are still focused on being ready by Nov 19. Time will tell.
Q: What is the big barn for?
A: Each night the bubble chairs will offload onto a rail system (think dry cleaners) and be stored in the barn. This keeps the chairs from swinging on the line during high winds at night. It also keeps the chairs clean and dry.
Q: Will the maze for the lift run through the barn?
A: No.
Q: How will the maze work?
A: Whether you access the base area from the Exhibition trail or the Canyon trail, you will be able to ski/ride into the maze. It will be queued on each side and meet in the middle.
Q: What are you going to do with the top floor of the barn?
A: We don’t have any definite plans – just lots of ideas! BTW, thanks for all of the suggestions you shared with me.
Q: Will there be a conveyor/carpet at the load of this lift (like the one at the Grand Summit Express?)
A: No. However, there will be gates that open automatically. The gates are somewhat like the gates at the entrance to the Grand Summit Express.
Q: Are there any height restrictions for riding the lift?
A: Yes, at least one person over a certain height will have to be on each lift. If a group of 6 children rode the lift and none of their feet could reach the safety bar, the safety bar would automatically raise. There has to be some pressure on the foot rest for the bar to stay in the closed position. And since we would never want a child to ride the lift with the bar up, we are going to request that at least one person that meets the minimum height requirement, ride in each chair.
Q: What is the minimum height?
A: We don’t know yet. Once the lift is finished we will determine the correct height and post it at the maze so you all know.
Q: Are the seats heated?
A: No
Q: What color is the bubble?
A: Blue
Q: How do you install the haul rope? Helicopter?
A: No need for a helicopter. The haul rope will be put in place by first running a small rope around the lift. This rope will be attached to a small steel rope and that pulled into place. This steel rope will be spliced into the new haul rope and used to pull the heavy rope into place then spliced.
Q: Do the bubbles close automatically?
A: On the ride up, you have to lower your safety bar and decide if you want to lower your bubble. They are very easy to lower. On windy days we will request that everyone lower the bubble. At the top you have the option of letting the bubble and safety bar raise automatically. I would highly recommend this. The automatic function happens just before you unload and your arms and feet must be off the safety bar and foot rest. At first it will feel a little uncomfortable because we are accustomed to raising our bars early. But trust me, it will open and for kids especially, raising the bar just before the unload area is the safest time. And if you want to go old school and raise it yourself, no problem. Just lift the bubble and then the bar.
Q: When I unload at the summit am I going to bump into the Summit Lodge?
A: No, because we have designed a contour unload. This means that you will ride around the bullwheel until your skis/board is facing the south (think Long John) and you will unload there.
Q: What if I want to go to the North Face or Cascade?
A: We have built a ski-under trail that will bring you right under the new lift and you will be at the top of Drifter/Cascade.
Q: Is smoking allowed on the Bluebird Express?
A: No. Not in the maze or on the lift.
Q: How can I ride the first chair?
A: Stay tuned. Grand opening details (including details on how you can ride the 1st chair) will be posted in the beginning of November.
Q: Where did the Waffle Cabin go?
A: We had to move the Waffle Cabin during construction. Don’t worry – it will be back right under the flag poles, next to ski check.
Q: Why are the bubbles blue?
A: We were looking at colors that best fit in with the environment and had it narrowed down to clear, smoke and blue. Our owner, Tim Boyd, picked the blue and we couldn’t agree more. It also works well with the idea that every day is a bluebird day at Mount Snow!
Q: Will wind affect the bubble chairs more?
A: This lift has been engineered to be more tolerant of the wind. The towers are lower and the chairs are very heavy. On windy days everyone will be asked to ride with the bubbles down so they are more aerodynamic.
Q: How fast will the chair go?
A: The Bluebird Express will travel at approximately the same speed as the Grand Summit Express or 1,000 ft/min.
Hi, I am Kelly! Mount Snow’s General Manager. I’ve been working at Mount Snow since 1985 and simply put, Mount Snow is my passion.
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When are you planning on posting the music calendar for the snowbarn?
We’re still working on bookings for the winter, Walt. As soon as we have dates, we’ll publish the music calendar. Thanks!
Hi I am Michael, a skier of Mount Snow since 1983. Simply put, Mount Snow is my passion!
Great tag line Kelly!
What is the maze??
lift lines
What is the top speed of the Bluebird Express?
1000ft/min I believe. It’s about the same speed as the Grand Summit Express.
When are the top and bottom terminals due to be set?
Don – we don’t have a firm date yet but it is coming up fast.
Great idea – giving all the info on the lift in one place and now, will reduce erroneous rumors. THANK YOU for NO SMOKING.
I would get some of the many fine local bands (Coydog, Mr Dix, etc.) to play at Cuzzins on weekends. Bruce Jaques is OK but not every week.
On wet days with an empty chair will the bubbles be closed to keep them dry?
all chairs will travel with the bubble down, so they should stay relatively dry if it’s raining.
Will there be any issues with the snow, rain or ice coming off the barn roof towards the lift?
Does moving the bubbles into the barn require manual labor or is it automated?
John, there could be considerable snow build up and our mtn ops team is addressing this a few ways (holding snow on roof and snow removal in.) Moving the bubbles to and from the barn is manual.
To add – Snow build up on the roof will definitely be an issue – given the pitch (looks to be greater than a 12 pitch) and metal roof the snow will tend to slide so consideration for a snow fence on the roof could be an option especially in the area of chair loading. You see this a lot in Boston on some of the older historic buildings with slate roofs where snow tends to slide.
Great work and look forward to seeing and enjoying the finished product!
Was up there this past weekend and WOW is that barn impressive. Also took a look at the new haul cable in the spool and wow at about 90,000 lbs and over 15K long it will be amazing to see ow that gets pulled up. Also would love to see (maybe you could video it) how you splice a huge heavy duty cable and not be visable. I have never seen a spice location on any cable. Then next how do you pull it tight enough? Are there huge counter weights?
Lastly in sitting in the chair with the bubble down it appears like the bubble is pretty prone to sratches and fog etc. What is the plan to help keep them clear and nice.
Jay – thanks for a great idea for our next video – very good topic. And the buble can easily be scratched and/or vandlized. We are installing cameras and will have an aggressive campaign to encourage patrons to respect the bubbles. If you have any other ideas on how to keep them looking good, please share!
please book the Heavy Pets to play music.
Great job and thanks for keeping us posted on progress.
Back in the day the old skis-on gondola was never able to run on windy days because the wind blew around the gondolas. Have these bubble chairs proven that they can operate in high winds?
Also, I can remember other new lifts at the mountain requiring testing with weights on all the chairs for several weeks. Will this lift undergo similar testing?
Any answers?
I hope Mt Snow doesn’t mind a visiting lift mechanic answering…
I’m assuming VT tests its new lifts like we do in NH. A new lift must pass a two day Acceptance Test before the public can ride. One day is for testing the electrical systems and safety devices like tower alignment and derail detectors, grip monitors in the terminals and drive safeties. The second day is a load test. The uphill-bound chairs are loaded to full capacity (if the lift is designed for downhill riding more of the chairs will be loaded) and the drives and brakes are tested. The electric motor and any diesel auxiliary engines must perform as designed with the load to pass the test.
Still haven’t seen a response – any idea when the terminal structures (top and bottom) are due to be set?
The remainiing parts and pieces are all being loaded and shipped as I type. we expect to see chair hangers, legs for terminals, return and drive terminals, bullwheels, and lift houses starting next week. We do not have a definite date from Poma on terminals but I would say construction will start around Nov 1.
When will be the first time the new lift is up and running, will people be able to ride it before the season starts
the lift will start running when the mountain opens. that’s the goal! it won’t be spinning before the season starts, unfortunately.
and please try to get pics of the lift being finished (if possible)
of course!
I think i see crew up on tower 4 – are you running com lines in advance of the haul rope?
yes sir
How about getting the Summit Cam up and working. Maybe install it on the Summit building so we can see and watch the terminal being put up and how it will be facing.
BTW I see you have had trucks at the top. How long a drive road is it from the base and how steep does it get. Does it traverse the entire south face on its way up?
we’ll get the summit cam up as soon as we have comm up and running. the drive up the service road winds back and forth across the front of the mountain, and takes about 15-20m in a pickup truck.
Besides the bubble chair will there be any new lifts put up around the mountain, maybe the sunbrook quad or one of the north face lifts that would make a huge improvement on how many people go to the mountain and it would spread people out so not most of the people are riding the main face in stead of beautiful sunbrook or the nice north face
Oh yeah and maybe you could put up a north face or sunbrook live camera with a nice view plus a look on what going on over there
Would still love to have a weekend or two where we could ride the bubble at night to have a romantic dinner at the summit. I know they dont have the cooking facilities, but perhaps a prefix would be a great idea and bring people back to the mountain at night. Gets us all ready should “the villiage” ever be built. Just an idea….your thoughts?
pretty cool idea. they have a grill at the summit. it would be a good way during the holidays
Leave North Face alone please! I like the lift system there – kinda old school..
Sunbrook needs to get faster though!
Great work Mt. Snow… Cant wait
HI KELLY;
AS ALWAYS YOU KEEP THE VISITORS OF MOUNT SNOW UP TO DATE. THANKS. DO EXPECT ANY CONGESTION ISSUES WITH THE QUAD AND THE NEW 6 CHAIR LIFT DROPPING ALL THOSE PEOPLE SO QUICKLY?
JIMMY
When will the barn be done?
How many more people will be skiing on the mountain at any one time based on increased lift capacity?
Are there any problems anticipated with the increase. Have any remedial measures been considered or implemented?
will you guys be doing launch pad again like last season? and if so when will we expect that?
We’re hoping to! It all depends on the weather and if we can make snow.
when will we know and where will it be posted
The only question that really matters ^
this faq is exactly why i call mount snow my home mtn – such a passionate crew :)
Are we taking expectations of first storm yet? I’ll leave out the obvious thursday oct 27th and take Haloween!!! Could be a real storm this weekend. Accuweather.com always good for a weather junkie looking for big headlines!
Will the bubble produce fog? If yes, how will you keep it clean! Thanks for all the updates!
put a restaruant on the top of the barn a nice sitdown 1
is that the haul rope on the live cams or am i wrong?
Kelly, great job with the updates, everything looks great so far. I’m putting the clubs away this weekend, convertable is in the garage, Octoberfest is over, leaves are dropping. All we can do is wait for snow……..waiting stinks.
Blowing snow tomorrow!!!!
Waiting ain’t so bad.
love the restaurant idea, or something generally nice. Of course my eyeballs would bleed at the idea of becoming Stratton, but one upsale option would be a great escape
I think the plan at this point is to use the upstairs of the Birdhouse as a meeting / function room, but who knows!
Looks like getting ready to load the haul rope. Please be sure to give us some nice closeup video of that process and the splicing as well.
Have they started building the top of the lift were you get off yet? I was there on Columbus weekend and it wasn’t even started yet.
How is the Gold Chair going to work on this lift? Will it have Gold Tint?
Ian, we will not have a painted gold chair or a gold bubble. we may come up with something for the number plate, however.
Many Kids and Adults are not going to be happy! A 8+ Million lift and you forgot the “Gold Chair”! Well is there a Gold Chair on the new chairs on that were installed on the Grand Summit Express?
We didn’t forget the gold chair! These new chairs (on the GSE and Bluebird) are galvanized and shouldn’t be painted. Also, unless we can find a leftover gold bubble from another installation, having a gold bubble is not going to be feasible. They need to be ordered in large batches, and at $3000 each… well, you get it :)
You did paint a galvanized chair on Canyon Express!
If Mt. Snow does end up opening on November 19th, will lift tickets be discounted or full price?
The Q&A indicates the safety bar will automatically rise without any weight on it. But I thought an earlier blog indicated that the bubble will come down automatically if the chair is empty. Can the bubble come down if the safety bar is up?
Glad those questions were answered!